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AMD Trinity A10-5800K Review

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Posted October 2, 2012 by James Baranski (Drdeath) in CPU & Motherboards

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Release Date: October 2. 2012
 
Price at time of Review: $122
 

WHAT WE LIKED:

Great priced mainstream processor. On-die GPU, good graphics/video and processing performance. Decent gaming performance for the price.
 

WHAT WE DISLIKED:

Although Piledriver has a much better instruction set, vanilla processing performance is only slightly better than Llano.
 
BOTTOM LINE:
Great entry level APU featuring great graphics and video playback.
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by James Baranski (Drdeath)
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Introduction

It has been sometime since we have seen any big changes from the AMD Camp. Intel successfully released IvyBridge months ago, and AMD seemingly gave up the chase for the performance crown after Bulldozer didn’t live up to expectations. These factors, plus industry conditions over the last few years, changed AMD’s business strategy. Now they are instead focusing on their successful APU’s (Accelerated Processing Units) as well as the mobile sector. For those not familiar with AMD’s APU’s, they developed the world’s first processor that was coupled with an on-die graphics processing unit. They called it Fusion technology.

Fusion started in 2011 with AMD’s “E” series processors codenamed Zacate, which did not offer very high performance; however, it was AMD’s first round with their new Fusion technology. Zacate did not make a huge impact in the desktop market, but it offered a low price in primarily the laptop market. It also offered a much better integrated graphics package than its rival Intel. Although Zacate was AMD’s entry level product, it offered a better all around package than Intel’s Atom processors at a lower price point. Next came the long awaited Llano platform that was based on the same Fusion technology. It included the same x86 cores as Zacate, and it had up to four cores using a 32nm die coupled with a Radeon 6550D on-die GPU (400 Radeon cores). We saw up to 90% of the performance of AMD’s retired Phenom II series, and the icing on the cake was that this terrific graphics package was coupled with a low price point. Llano carried AMD for sometime and Intel went into full development mode to try to compete at the mainstream level. Another great feature with AMD’s Fusion technology was it had the ability to crossfire an additional 6660/6670 graphics card with the on-die GPU for some outstanding graphics and video playback. Using either the on-die GPU or crossfiring a stand alone graphics card gave the desktop arena a low priced, but powerful, gaming rig in the $400 to $600 range. So, what’s next from AMD?

Well, yesterday was yesterday, and today brings AMD’s next evolution of Fusion technology codenamed Trinity. Trinity is AMD’s first mobile APU mixed with their reworked Bulldozer cores named Piledriver. It features up to four cores plus a better graphics package than Llano. It is coupled with a Radeon 7650/7660D on-die GPU with up to 384 CoreNext stream processors. We are excited to have AMD’s A10-5800K desktop APU in the lab to share with you guys. We are anxious to see what this new tech is capable of, so let’s get it unboxed and check out the performance of AMD’s new Piledriver cores combined with AMD’s Fusion technology.

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13 Comments


  1.  
    Erik

    This is awesome that you did some benches with Dual Graphics, thank you. It’s been kind of hit and miss finding this info. I do have to ask though, was that 1920×1080 on BF3? Also, why not 1920×1080 for MW3 for consistency’s sake?




  2.  
    scalman

    so..ok why new AMD APU pairs with old 6670 and not with 7770 in crossfire..its no point put old 6670 with new 5800k. if u can afford just 6670 then take cheap intel G630 and have similar results.




    •  
      soulwalk

      The reason is very simple scaleman

      the apu + 6670 amd is enough to play games on medium settings without a hiccup

      this is designed with budget consumers in mind and a g630 intel with same set up would do poorer then that

      reasons 1 its 4 core

      2 the apu is designed to pic up the slack of the 6670 amd ddr5 kind of like a booster in gaming were it lags the apu will speed up etc




  3.  
    ex

    I’m not sure why you weren’t able to overclock your 7660D. I’m able to on mine without changing anything.. I was actually searching of safe speeds to overclock my 7660D. So far, at I tried 1000mhz and was at 58C on average. Is that safe?




  4.  
    Josh

    Why not test the Intel with the 6670 and the 7770 looks like you are trying to make Intel look bad lol #biased fanboys




    •  

      Test conditions have to stay the EXACT same, or else the results are worthless. Would you compare different cars at different speeds and then draw conclusions at how fast they are on the quarter mile, when only one car ran that track? Testing must be consistent, regardless of which components are used, otherwise people could claim differences are due to the graphics card rather than the CPU. Surely you must see that, right?

      On a side note, this isn’t Twitter, so the hashtag doesn’t really do much in the comment section. Might wanna check that before you post next time. Otherwise looks like you’re trying to make yourself look bad #wrongsite fanboy ;)




  5.  
    Sandy Bruce

    I dont think anyone would have to try to make Intel look bad when it comes to Integrated graphics. They do that well enough on their own. They do great in clock for clock cpu performance but lag behind in the gpu department. History shows this.




  6.  
    Roy

    Why was 1333 MHz RAM used? I’ve heard that using at least 1866 MHz provides substantial improvements in performance, but all of the reviews I’ve seen with a CrossFire setup have used nothing faster than 1600 MHz. Since (according to my research) the APU uses the RAM for graphics, wouldn’t the RAM speed significantly impact graphics performance?




  7.  
    Simon

    lol you really don’t need a dedicated graphics card with an A10.

    Just get a decent A85X chipset MB, at least 8 gig DDR3 ram – 1600 Mhz should be MINIMUM for decent performance. CL 8 should be the MAX you go for. Lower CL is better ie 8-8-8 24. CAS latency (has a fairly big performance hit). Well picked RAM and MB, along with a half decent cooler open up your overclocking options a lot.

    You really don’t need to push this thing hard though. It’s a good performer. If you need more graphics, a 7850 is ridiculous value for it’s price and can be heavily O/Cd. At the extreme end I’ve seen 3dMark 11 tests with just one card achieving over 10k.

    Just wait it out if you don’t need it and grab an A12. Long live AMD :)




  8.  
    JAY

    MY A10 5800K IS ROCKING 4.7GHZ with room AND on the gpu i overclocked it to just a little bit over 1ghz my fps is near 70 on high settings, all bios overclock this lil thing rocks

    amd a10 5800k apu, asrock fm2 pro 4 wd 1 tb hd, corsair xms 2 1333 (also overclocked to 1600)




    •  
      JAY

      it wouldnt let me edit but a corsair h100 for my cooler




    •  
      Christopher

      Would u mind sharing your overclock settings in your bios? i am trying very hard to get to 4.8 – 5.0 and i would like to bump up the ram as well like u got . i have same ram and cpu.





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